Dore Talk

Hi   I'm 35 years old and have been on the dore program for just over a year now. I have seen  very little change apart from about a month ago  when my whole life seemed to change. I started to understand the world, my memory was amazing and my vocabulary and spelling had greatly improved, but to my great dissapointment it only lasted exactly 1 week. I now feel I am back to how i was before i started the program!!  please please please if anyone has had simular experiences let me know as i need to know there is a light at the end of this very dark tunnel.

Hi Soph welcome to the forum you have come to the right place for answers, one thing I want to ask is are you on the mental tasks yet?

What you are describing is what I came to call "the fog" and it isn't until you start to experience what the world is like out of it that you understand how disabled you have been all your life and what Dore actually does.

You have seen an image of it over that week but the fog has not cleared completely as yet for it to become permanent. My daughter finally came out of the fog once she had commenced her mental tasks. You have had an inkling if what your future holds for you Soph do not worry it will return until you no longer feel stuck in a bubble or the fog. Your center may call it "Kicking In" but to me The Fog describes it exactly. Ellie XXX

Hi I'm 33 years old and have been on the programme for 8 months - I have been on the mental tasks for about 5 months ...I saw no change for about 3 months and was at a private tutor to help with reading and writing as well. Thought I was doing well but now I feel I'm back to square one - very disappointing - finding tasks very difficult and depressing - been off work since mental tasks started - Hope there is a light at the end of the tunnel .Does anyone else feel like this? Whole family affected .No interest in doing anything - just want to get this programme finished as it has been the most stressful thing I have ever done I just hope it is all worth it!!  But I don't intend to give up - I want to beat this dyslexia once and for all!

thanks for your enquirery.

Thankyou for your email of support,however i still feel that Dore have let me down by offering faulse promises,and it just seems they have taken alot of my money and left me to cope alone.

I intend to continue with my exercises but cant wait untill they end,my husband feels the same!

I know there are other life factors that can and are responsible for introducing stress and worry into our lives,those however have always been there and have not changed,the only change in my live has been the introduction of Dore,and my feeling of being let down by false promises!

Thankyou however for responding to my post,it was very good of you,however it was more of wot Dore have already said.

yours gratefully

Frances x

Good evening Frances

I am just read your posts... I am concerned to hear of your experience with the programme. Could I ask which centre you visit? I am very sorry to  hear that you feel you have been left on your own to cope. Please do try and keep positive I know that it muct be very hard especially if your are not seeing the progress you anticipated.

Could I also ask whether you are exercising your brain in any other way alongside doing the programme?

I hope that you have a wonderful weekend and I look forward to hearing from you soon

All the best

Rose

Thank you for your reply.

I am attending belfast and have been going to a private tutor as advised by the centre.

Hi Frances

I have contacted the Belfast centre in regards to your concerns and hopefully I will hear back. I am sorry again that your are not having the best experience I hope that we will be able to make it better for you.

Have a great evening

All the best

Rose

Frances,

I am 49 years old and have been on the program for only a little over two weeks. Dyslexia or whatever we want to call this disorder has made my life very hard. so believe me when I say I really feel for you. I have tried many things to help myself with this and nothing has worked, not even a little bit. With all this I will still give this 100%, I do not expect anything but I will allow myself a little hope. My suggestion (if you don't mind) is stay positive and give the program 100% to the end. It is only then that you can honestly say that Dore is offering false promises. If you read some of the other posts you will see that some have not seen any results for up to twenty two months. Do not give up. I really want this to work for you as for me.

 Frances,

Have emailed you.

Unfortunately just because DORE doesn't involve meds doesn't mean it can't have bad effects.

 Interested to hear about the private tutor on top of DORE exercises - is this usual?

Thanks,

Duck. 

Why do you find a tutor on top of Dore unusual?

My son is doing Dore and is also seeing a tutor.  Dore is one part of the remediaiton process, not the only one.  Weeks, months, or years of remdial processes can go by with little or no effect, until the therapy that Dore provides starts to kick in and the brain is more neurologically equipped to process past and present learning, no matter the age of the participant.  So, I address this to both Duck and to Frances, it does takes time, you are building new neural pathways and also neurologically adjusting and adapting to being more neurologically efficient.  And it is not a one-and-only solution, and never should be.  

Sorry to post twice, lost the first post, then wahlah, there it is. Oh well, here is the re-worded version!  :-) 

 Why do you find tutoring while doing Dore unusual?

My son is also tuturing while doing Dore, and will likely continue through school.  See, Dore is not the only part of a remedial process, and should never be, if that is what prompted your question, Duck. Weeks, months, or years of all kinds of remediation can occur with little or no sucess until the therapy kicks in and the brain is more neurologically equipped and more effecient to process past and present learning.  Both to Duck and to Frances, the therapy is rebuilding pathways to more efficient places, much like would happen during stroke therapy/rehab if you can think of it that way, but to target the place they were originally intended to be rather than the place that houses the coping strategies which is way less efficient, and it takes time for that adaptation process to occurr, again, similar to what those with cereballar damage experience.  

Yes those glimpses of the light at the end of the tunnel, followed by a return to square one or so it seems, sound familiar. 

My supervisor has done the programme as an adult as well as having her kids go through it.  She says she noticed real and permanent change after she'd finished and come off the programme.

Hi Jonlil with my daughter Leila the biggest changes I saw was when she commenced the mental task and the fog had lifted, this was when she was able finally to retain what she had been learning at school.

Her progress continued after Dore and was on a par with her peers 9 months after finishing, she has maintained those gains. I do think a lot of Leila's problems were confidence and the realisation that she could now do it. When you have had a life time of struggle and failure, it takes a while for it to sink in that they no longer have those difficulties, which hindered their progress prior to Dore.

She transferred straight from primary school in learning needs classes to senior school into mainstream classes and found the transition difficult, too much too early. With the school having a confidence package in situ for her, leila is now coming into her own and realising that she does have the ability there after all. Ellie XXX

 I just hadn't heard that DORE used extra tutoring as well.

My main interest is in the academic research side, & it is interesting to wonder whether DORE works better than the private tutoring alone.

From the helping people side I agree that 1:1 help is a sensible idea. 

Dore doesn't "use" extra tutoring, it is the parents choice to bring it in when and if they feel that their child is able to learn and warrants it. I found that no teaching was sticking pre Dore, ny son had no short term memory to speak of, couldn't tell you the days of the week clearly at 8, or months of the year, no concept of time, very little was learning was being retained. I have found myself teaching lots of things to my son these days and he is learning it's a joy to see. So private tutoring would have been a waste of time and money back then. The teachers did their best but if a child isn't able to learn what's the point. Once they are able to learn, there is a large gap in knowledge that has to  filled, all the concepts, spellings, information that can not be recovered at school can be re-taught by a private tutor or by the parent themselves. Not all people have the same symptoms so it depends I suppose on how far behind they are.

PS he had an A for his science classwork today, so new things learnt recently are being retained, he was delighted.

lelly88:

Dore doesn't "use" extra tutoring, it is the parents choice to bring it in when and if they feel that their child is able to learn and warrants it. I found that no teaching was sticking pre Dore, ny son had no short term memory to speak of, couldn't tell you the days of the week clearly at 8, or months of the year, no concept of time, very little was learning was being retained. I have found myself teaching lots of things to my son these days and he is learning it's a joy to see. So private tutoring would have been a waste of time and money back then. The teachers did their best but if a child isn't able to learn what's the point. Once they are able to learn, there is a large gap in knowledge that has to  filled, all the concepts, spellings, information that can not be recovered at school can be re-taught by a private tutor or by the parent themselves. Not all people have the same symptoms so it depends I suppose on how far behind they are.

PS he had an A for his science classwork today, so new things learnt recently are being retained, he was delighted.

Well done Matthew!!! (again, does he know this is what you expect ALL the time now lesley???) lol

lelly88:

Dore doesn't "use" extra tutoring, it is the parents choice to bring it in when and if they feel that their child is able to learn and warrants it. I found that no teaching was sticking pre Dore, ny son had no short term memory to speak of, couldn't tell you the days of the week clearly at 8, or months of the year, no concept of time, very little was learning was being retained. I have found myself teaching lots of things to my son these days and he is learning it's a joy to see. So private tutoring would have been a waste of time and money back then. The teachers did their best but if a child isn't able to learn what's the point. Once they are able to learn, there is a large gap in knowledge that has to  filled, all the concepts, spellings, information that can not be recovered at school can be re-taught by a private tutor or by the parent themselves. Not all people have the same symptoms so it depends I suppose on how far behind they are.

PS he had an A for his science classwork today, so new things learnt recently are being retained, he was delighted.

Well done Matthew!!! (again, does he know this is what you expect ALL the time now lesley???) lol

Lesley - that's great news on the Science classwork. It's all coming together!